These are the same shinai that can be bought for twice the price at most stores. They last well for mid level sparring, and I would recommend them for all levels so long as you're not attempting to just wail on each other with them. Make sure to take off the red strips, they are not only meant to come off, but they shinai is more likely to break with them on. the weapon is also much more dangerous with them on because it can't absorb shock as well.